Medicare Supplement Plan F
Choose Medicare Supplement Plan F when only the best will do
If you have decided that purchasing a Medicare supplement is the way to go, you may be wondering which supplemental plan is best. This question is easily answered if you are not severely limited on your health care budget.
As of December 2011 4.6 million people with Medicare had purchased Medicare supplement Plan F. That’s up 9.6% over the previous year.
Medicare supplement policies, or Medigap as it is also known, are available as standardized plans. Each standardized Medicare supplement will fill the gaps left by Medicare. Which plan you choose will determine to what extent the gaps are filled. Medicare supplement plan F is the most comprehensive plan and will leave you with the least amount out-of-pocket.
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Medicare Supplement Plan F Benefits
- Part A hospital deductible
- Part A hospital coinsurance
- Skilled nursing facility coinsurance
- Blood
- Hospice co-payment/coinsurance
Medicare Part B:
- Part B outpatient deductible
- Part B outpatient coinsurance
- Part B excess charges – 100%
- Blood
Other Benefits
- Foreign travel emergency – 80% to lifetime max of $50,000 after $250 calendar year deductible
In addition to these benefits, some providers will offer additional value added benefits. For example, AARP Medicare supplement Plan F will also include:
- Vision discounts
- Nurse health line
- Pharmacy services discounts
Even though Plan F is the most comprehensive, it still has its limits. Unless a company is offering some ancillary benefits and discounts, don’t expect Plan f to cover non-Medicare expenses. The limits to Plan F are inherent in what a supplement is intended to do.
The best time to by a Medicare supplement
The best time to by a Medigap policy is during open enrollment when you first become eligible for Medicare enrollment. During this time you cannot be denied coverage for any pre-existing health conditions.
If you have a special circumstance, such as losing employer group insurance, leaving a Medicare Advantage plan within the first year or moving out of an Advantage plan’s service area, you will have a guaranteed issue period where you are able to purchase any policy that a company sells.
It’s also important to note that you will need to choose a Medicare Part D plan to accompany your Medicare supplement. Unlike an Advantage plan, such as AARP Medicare Complete, you will not have drug coverage included in your supplemental insurance plan.
If you do not enroll in a Part D drug plan when first eligible, you may have to pay a late enrollment penalty should you decide to enroll at a later date. Also, keep in mind that unlike a Medicare supplement policy, you will be subject to enrollment periods with Medicare Part D insurance.
Comparing Medicare supplement Plan F policies
Since Medicare supplement plans are standardized, you will find that each companies plans will have identical benefits. Medicare supplement Plan F includes the same benefits no matter which company you choose.
This makes shopping for a plan simple. Since Medigap insurance is basically a commodity, it is easiest to compare Medicare supplement plans
online. Most people would find it time consuming and somewhat redundant to meet with several agents when the only difference in plans will be the cost and the perceived level of customer service.
Monthly premiums can vary considerably between companies for Medigap Plan F, so do your homework and look at several companies before you make your choice.
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Comments
I was going to change Medicare plans, and picked Healthnet ( in Arizona) had all of the paper work in early, as they called me to get it in quickly. I received a letter saying CMS will not allow Healthnet to accept me….then today, I received a medicare card, so apparently, I was rolled into regular Medicare, when CMS investigated.
I think that Plan N would be the best for me, with regular medicare….your thoughts, please…….( Do not trust the advantage plans too much now and the price increases)
Thanks so much.
Hi. I have a question about home health care Medicare benefits. What constitutes a “Medicare approved” home health care service? My mother has Plan F, which picks up the 20% of OT and PT that medicare part B does not cover. Those therapists recommend that she have help in the home until her injured arm heals. How does one determine if a home health care provider is Medicare approved, and does one submit those bills to part B or F?
Thanks
LLL
I am under 65. I have been on SS disability since Jan/09. According to SS I have to go on Medicare 6/11, I have no choice. I also loose my retirement health insurance when I go on Medicare, even though I have 2 yrs left before I reach 65. I am having a hard time finding Medicare coverage? I think I would like Medigap F. Since I am under 65 not everyone has policies for me, and If they do they are very expensive. Any ideas that would help me on making a decision. Thanks
Holy Cow!
I am retired and I have a Mutual of Omaha Supplement Policy Plan F. I got an increase on Jan 1, 2011 and just got another notice of Increase effective in May, 2011. The net increase of both notices is a whopping 43.3% increase in Premiums. I went from $119/mo to over $170/mo in 90 days?
Of course, Mutual of Omaha said the State of Arizona approved both of these so it was not their fault? They say that the increasing health costs caused this. Well, not getting any COLA for two to maybe 3 years and higher energy and drug costs are killing Seniors. But, Mutual of Omaha, who made a 2010 Net Profit of half a Billion dollars…..well, they could care less.
Class warfare has begun as only the wealthy will be able soon to afford a Supplement. The rest of us will fall into those dreaded Advantage plans of just plain medicare.
If you really look at what you pay annually, it is now as much as the CAP on what you would be out a year in an Advantage plan. Would anyone think all this is a vast conspiracy by the Insurance companies to drive people back into Advantage plans? Makes one wonder.
Mark,
I have had Mutual of Omaha medgap plan F for less than one year and now the premium is going up 25.00 per month. Is this worth the extra 300 per year when I am in pretty good health, but will be needing a hip replacement in near future. Is there a different plan that covers good for hospital etc that would be cheaper than 185.00 per month?
David, I’m confused about whether my husband can switch to Medigap Plan F from an employer-sponsored supplement after the special enrollment period for Medigap. On page 11 of Medicare’s “2011 Choosing a Medigap Policy”, it says that he has “guaranted issue right” if he has an “employer group health plan” and that “plan is ending”. Does choosing a new policy (Medigap Plan F) during the annual enrollment period constitute a plan ending? We’re in Washington state and he’s retiring as a state employee where they offer Uniform Medical Plan as a state-funded PPO plan for retirees. Can you help? Do you know where this would be clarified in print? Many thanks.
i have plan j right now and considered switching to sound path advantage plan-with prescription with no premium. i have done the math and it seems worth the switch unless i really get ill and need dialysis. i’m fairly healthy with controlled bp(just retired as a nurse). what is the coverage
for dialysis for plan f(can’t find this info in my paperwork). thanks .
jessie
I am newly retired and have both Mediare and AARP Supplemental Plan F. I have been told to get CPAP supplies through Medicare and my supplemental plan, I need to have a new sleep study, since my initial sleep study in the United States was in 2004 (I had one done done several years earlier in Saskatchewan, where I was first diagnosed with Sleep Apnea). Two questions: 1. Is this true? Do I need a new sleep study? 2. If so, is the 20% not covered by Medicare covered by my AARP Supplemental Plan F? Your answers to these questions will be much appreciated. God bless you. Fr. John Mancantelli
David,
I retired from teaching in NJ and since I did not have the required years for a paid medigap plan by the State, I kept my covereage Blue Cross Blue Shield from the school district. My premium has increased from $910 a month to $1575 a month for my husband and myself. This plan includes drugs. I now live in Florida. Should I leave the district plan which will cost over $16000 a year or should I keep it. My husband is on five drugs which are paid with a $200 deductible by BCBS. This premium will prove a hardship, especially since I am raising my adopted eleven year old grandson. I just found out about the increas and the open enrollment will end soon. what do you suggest?
Thank you David.
If I leave the employer plan can I enroll in a Medigap plan at any time or must I enroll during the open enrollment period. Are employer plans better than Medigap plans. I tried to get an answer from the employer but all they said was that it was the same plan I had as an employee. How can this be when I also have Medicare now.
I am just switching to AARP Complete, from AARP Medigap, Plan F. I was told I could switch back to the supplement anytime within the first 12 months with no health questions, back to what I currently have. I just talked with an AARP rep who said I only had 30 days to switch and retain the plan I have since there is a different plan F in place now. I am concerned about the need for dialysis in the next few years, I’m currently stage 3 and stable, but at 69, things can change quickly. I cannot get a clear answer on what the cost co=pay for dialysis is on Medicare Complete, as opposed to 100% on Medicare Supplement. I’m wondering if I should just keep the supplement and pay the premium so I’m assured of coverage?
I sm in tears. I have spent 4 days researching advantage vs supplementsl plans. We spent time with an agent who talked so fast that we couldn’t understand him. I turn 65 in Feb and know I will need a hip replacement this year. My husband turns 65 in 2012 so we will both now have to pay the extra $200/month for Part B insurance (not that I’m complaining – our income is just limited). So, my questions is if it would be to my advantage, considering the hip replacement, to spend the money for a supplement plan rather than relying on Medicare alone?
Also, I have read that if I don’t get into a supplement plan during this open enrollment and I develop a chronic condition, I most likely will not ever qualify for a supplemental plan again.
I am so confused by now that I can’t make a decision.
Thanks for any comments you have.
Thank you. You noted on 11-16-11 that medicare covers dialysis 100%, and that’s what it says on the medicare information. However, that doesn’t seem right since MA plans have a 20% co-pay and it’s my understanding they have to offer everything medicare offers. My supplement and Part D are an additional $220 a month on top of part B. It does add up and I’m rarely sick. I believe the MA plans save money unless you a have major illness. I could handle the out of pocket cap if it became necessary but I still don’t understand how dialysis is covered under medicare vs medicare advantage.
If I may add a note for Georgia. You might look for another agent, both the ones who came to our home were very patient and went through everything and answered all our questions. We’ve had AARP supplement Plan F for 10 years and been very pleased with it. However, the premiums for Part B, Part D and our supplement did add up for the two of us. I went back several years and tracked what we would have spent ourselves and felt it was worth it to gamble what we were paying in premiums against having a major illness and having to pay the out of pocket cap for the Advantage plan. It’s an individual choice but I know there are some very good agents, call the company and ask for an in-home visit. As you are not yet 65, you have some time to do further checking. Check what you would pay out for premiums vs what your total out of pocket cost would be for a hip replacement. You might go with a supplement and your husband takes the advantage for a year or so and then compare.
I recently changed from Plan F to Plan G believing the coverage was exactly the same except for a $162.00 deductible. With that deductible and the monthly cost, I would still be saving money. However, a friend told me they thought Plan G paid less than the standard Medicare amount, so I would be paying more out of pocket. Is this true? (I hope I haven’t made a mistake in changing.) Will it be a problem to go back to Plan F during the next open enrollment?
Regarding AARP’s plan F – what is the policy on pre-existing conditions?
Specifically, if I sign up for, and am approved for the plan, will it cover
Infusions of Remicade ( done at the hospital) for psoriatic arthritis that was diagnosed last year – or is there a six month waiting period from effective date of plan?
I have plan B under the AARP Supplemental Health Ins. company. I could have sworn that I signed up for the plan that provided coverage for skilled nursing facility. Is it possible that plan B at some point dropped that coverage? How can I get a copy of my original application form? Also, my husband is still covered under his former employers plan as a retiree and it may provide for skilled nursing facility coverage. It is not a supplemental plan, but I am still covered under it and do not use it for anything other than prescriptions (which qualifies as equivalent to Part D coverage.) Can I utilize this coverage should I find myself requiring care in a skilled nursing facility? I understand from a response to a question above that I cannot switch from plan B to plan C without going through the underwriting process.
we are 65 for me and 68 for my husband and have medicare A.
we are retired in mexico but will go back to usa and wish
to seek extra insurance – I do not understand anything
as what to add for supplements b f m n.
For instance could we acquire N with just medicare A.
We are very healthy but who knows what life will be later on and I am worried for the futur and would like to live
securily when it comes to health care. I have no clue of what to do – all is so complicated to understand.
Sincerely
would you consult via email
at least reading your blog I can gather I am not alone
and I wonder how hospitals and doctors deal with such
complicated laws. I heard on the news the Obama care
mentioned but same here I have no understanding of what
it will entitle. We ar now on retirement and social security is a change of life but we have a house and savings.. My belief is that we should all have the perfect insurance at your age after having paid our dues to our government – so what to do to respect a budget and also not to loose all our savings – to have a secure end of life and no worry about hospital and medication. thank you
Hi,
I turned 65 in January and will be signing up for Medicare Plan B tomorrow. I am considering AARP’s Plan F, but an agent from Mutual of Omaha called me. I am tempted, but I am concerned about possible horrendous increases I could not possibly afford, should they occur, as happened to George.
“I am retired and I have a Mutual of Omaha Supplement Policy Plan F. I got an increase on Jan 1, 2011 and just got another notice of Increase effective in May, 2011. The net increase of both notices is a whopping 43.3% increase in Premiums. I went from $119/mo to over $170/mo in 90 days?
Is this a distinct possibilty in Virginia, where I live. I understand that AARP promises no increases. Please help. I need to make a decision fairly quickly. Thank you for you input
Rachida
Hello,
Mutual of Omaha just raised my monthly rate by $25.00 for
plan F. I have payments withdrawn from my checking acct.
monthly. I want to cancel this insurance. What are my rights in Texas? and where can I find a good supplement
for Medicare? How does the off enrolling season affect
my situation or am I at the mercy of the insurance co. I have A and B Medicare.
Thanks,
Susann
I am on Medicare and I will be 67 this Sept. and I thought that I had a supplement Policy with the mill where I worked, but as it turned out it did not cover with Medicare. So now I need to get a supplement policy so could you give me ome advice on what to do and what to buy, I have Part A & B and a drug policy with UniCare. Thanks For your help, James Burnham
David, My husband turns 65 soon. He is healthy and currently pays his full health insurance premium (self-employed) with a $5,000.00 deductible (HSA eligible), 100% after that paid by insurance company, (CIGNA). My dear friend, a private hospital case manager, said he should not consider a Medicare Advantage Plan as several providers where we live in Florida do not accept them. We are used to the gamble of medical costs, as we can afford the $5,000.00 and it keeps the premiums lower. Is it true that more providers deny the Advantage plans? If not, are there strong plans that limit OOP to a max of, say, $5,000.00 (ncluding premiums)? And what, exactly is the biggest advantage/disadvantage of the Advantage Plans? Thank you in advance for your reply.



I can’t find the price of the part “F” medigap plan
my zip code is 31533 Douglas, Ga. i am on medicare “A & B
i am disabled.